Glen Abernethy
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I’m not sure how to answer the question. It’s not revenue. It’s never been revenue. It’s a chargeback. It’s a reallocation of funds. It’s all internal to government. It’s not new money coming into the government, which is what revenue technically is. We provide service within government to government and there’s a cost to that from each department. Computers that the Legislative Assembly buys and has serviced through TSC is covered under the $324,000 budget that’s identified here on this page as well as on their individual line item. It’s not revenue. I don’t know what else to say.
It’s not, like I said, revenue. It’s an internal reallocation. It is tracked. Every department identifies what they’re paying for those services. The money is transferred to the Department of Public Works and Services and in particular ITI. Maybe for a more accounting response, I’ll go to Mr. Lewis.
Thank you, Madam Chair. There are no plans in the main estimates to change to a different source in the petroleum products division. We as a department are continuing to look at our own infrastructure and where appropriate upgrading them to have pellet capacity. We discussed that a little bit yesterday and we’re still interested in doing that and moving forward there. That will create more demand. As far as changes to petroleum products division, this main estimates, nothing. Once we have an opportunity to discuss this with committee, we’ll figure out where we’re going to go from here.
Thank you, Madam Chair. The report is completed and it is ready to be forwarded to committee for review and discussion and I will forward it on to committee right away.
Yes, Madam Chair.
What’s in the letter is exactly what I heard when I was in Colville Lake, that they want to have some sort of reintegration plan that maybe starts with a bit of an on-the-land program and then bringing them back into the communities. I want my department to meet with representatives of Colville Lake, the individuals who sent the letter, sooner rather than later, but I think we need to have a conversation with them as to when would be the best time for us to go and meet them. I think some of the initial discussions can start by distance, but there’s definitely going to be a need for them to get...
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When I visited Colville Lake with the Member, the community members did indicate that they’d like to work on some sort of reintegration plan to have inmates from Colville Lake transition back into the community. There wasn’t a lot of talk about the detail, but since then I have received a letter from the chief and council of Colville Lake and we are in the process of drafting a response to that letter saying that we’re very interested in actually finding some way to work together, or actually just working together to develop some sort of reintegration plan in...
Thank you, Madam Chair. I’m happy to have somebody from Finance help explain this to the Member and anybody else who’s interested. The bottom line is it’s not revenue. If you look on the page 7-26, it shows how the dollars are spent: $7.008 million are for salaries of TSE staff, and the other $11 million is for things like the DCN contracts and services and other contracts and contracts we have to provide services within the Government of the Northwest Territories in all communities, all regions. It’s outlined there how the money is spent, but I’m happy to have somebody from Finance provide...
Thank you, Madam Chair. As the Government of the Northwest Territories it shows up in every department under the TSC chargeback line that we talked about previously. The Member is correct; there might be some errors in wording on this page. This isn’t really income. This is a chargeback or – what was the other word we used – a cost recovery within the Government of the Northwest Territories. Revenue is usually money coming into the government that would go to general revenues. There’s no money going to general revenues here. It’s a reallocation of funds. It’s a chargeback. It’s a cost recovery...
Thank you, Madam Chair. It is not revenue. It is not new money to the Government of the Northwest Territories. It’s identified in every department’s budget. The TSC charges a fee for the services it provides. It will send an invoice to the department. For instance, Public Works and Services is $984,000. They send up an invoice and then there’s a journal voucher, an accounting exercise to transfer the money from that department into the TSC so that they can cover their costs. So it’s not revenue to the government. It’s an internal reallocation of money within the government.