Floyd Roland

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Finally we agree. The scope in the project has changed and that is why we are coming back to this House for approval for that change. Up until that approval happens, the authority given to the Assembly remains with that project. The reason we're coming back now is because a request has been made and we've agreed at the first stage, but we need the authority of the Assembly to move beyond this next stage. If the Assembly does not approve of it, then the project, as the department is trying to put in place now, will not proceed until it receives approval of this...

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, to try to make this a little more clear, we are bringing this before this Assembly for approval. This money needs to be approved if it’s going to proceed in that manner or, if it doesn’t get approved, then the department has to go back and identify where it would come up with those costs if it was going to proceed with that project. The money is still identified in the books still under the Territorial Treatment Centre, but the location will, if this goes to plan that has been discussed and approved at the first level and now needs approval by the...

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, the budget as it's laid out and is brought before this House and voted upon gives the government the authority to spend the money on the projects identified. If those projects do not proceed in a timely fashion, then we come back to this Assembly and in the form of a supplementary appropriation to record the amount of capital carryovers for O and M money that was not used in the fiscal year it was identified and we request the carryover. That happens on an annual basis. One of the first bills we bring before this House in a supplementary document is...

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Again, the Member is looking at the area of where we have made a decision and transfers are occurring. In a sense, the change in scope is what we are coming forward now with. The dollars are still identified for the project under the existing terms, as was approved by this Assembly. It is now coming to this Assembly for the changes that are being requested.

As I stated earlier, when this issue, as I laid out earlier on record, the capital acquisition plan from 2002-03, 2003-04 to 2004-05, the substantiation given for carryovers and, at that time, being identified...

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, when departments have changes to projects there are provisions within the Financial Administration Manual that lay out what need to be done and we would use that as the tool in informing Members that would be affected by changes to projects. Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, the process that we use as a Cabinet and FMB when Ministers would come forward with plans or changes in plans, they would have to come and address their changes to us and seek our approval. In this case, a facility was being considered for a major retrofit or replacement and the estimates that are put into the document, in the budget we vote on, are class D estimates and are still subject to change.

As another facility had become available in the territory and looking at the decentralization aspect of government as well as how we conduct our business...

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The reason we initially went back to Minister Bell is when RWED was one department, he was involved with this. Now that’s falling into Minister Miltenberger’s side of the equation. The fees will address cost to collect, process, transport containers, and to administer the program. An unredeemed deposit, when everybody goes forward and buys their pop or their juice packs and pays their deposit, if they don’t return them back to the depot, that money that is unredeemed as they say, will go towards the administration costs of the program and we’ll cover the other costs...

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am just trying to get that information to see if in fact they are for a term position. I think we had better go to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. I don't have the detail in my briefing book.

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The money that was approved in 2004-05 for the Territorial Treatment Centre and subsequently brought forward this year would lapse and as we are doing now, the money has now been identified through the supplementary appropriation that is going to come before this House and will be dealt with in that fashion, requesting the Assembly to approve the change in designation of those funds. Those funds were identified for the facility, Territorial Treatment Centre, in Yellowknife. To move that money now to upgrade that facility would require approval of this Assembly....

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The reason the department was asking for this money initially was to provide the start-up funds. So that is setting up the depots, the equipment that would be needed. At that point, as the recycled materials started arriving and we started sending out the materials for the rebate, then as the money flowed in it would allow them to then become self-sustaining. The goal is to be self-sustaining, but it was realized at that point that start-up costs needed to be identified and attached to this to make it a worthwhile process and to have it come into place.