Floyd Roland

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I guess we could go around the clock on this. I have stated that the process, the guidelines that are here, we use when we make changes to a project. Whether the Member feels we're just using it to get around to say this is the formal process that we're now using…I've spoken to the Minister. He has indicated to me that when this project came up and why it hadn't proceeded in that year, why they needed to carry it over and re-identify it, it was identified at that point to the committee members that there were alternative options also being looked at.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I guess the Members may want to debate the merit of moving the project, but to try to call into question the process that’s established in saying we dislike the fact that the project or the idea of the project, the money being moved is in question. Let’s have the debate around the merit, the value of moving the project from one community to another. The process is identified. If the plan goes ahead, the dollars would be coming back to the Assembly, to the committees in the 2006-07 business plan to have that project established. What they’re seeking at...

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I guess to stick to the process, we have followed the rules that are in place. From time to time the Ministers' departments have need to change the plan that has been presented before the House and it has to come back to this House for approval. At this stage, a political decision has been made and agreed to, but now to move the actual dollars we need the approval of this House. We’re following the rules that are set out and we’re seeking the approval of this Assembly. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, as I stated earlier, the money did not disappear. The authority to spend the money was given and the money was not spent. The authority remains on that project and the substantiation of that project, and was identified in the infrastructure acquisition plan in the 2004-05 one under CAP 14. It was identified, it's there, it hasn't changed, it has not disappeared and remains. I guess that's where the grey area that some have referred to may be setting up, because the money is still there under that project. It has not been taken away, it has not been...

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, as projects are established and begin to move forward, if there are changes to those projects, Ministers of the appropriate departments would notify Members in writing of the proposed changes, whether a project value would increase or decrease. Normally, though, if a project is not proceeded with but is still on the books with no changes to it but for one reason or another it hasn’t proceeded, no notification comes forward until the formal notification as we are here through our capital carryover process. Then all the projects that did not proceed or were...

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, as the process unfolded and the Minister had come forward with this plan and one other department had declared this space as not being used in the future for government purposes and looking at the plans, at that point the plan had come forward to change communities for the Territorial Treatment Centre. On the basis of the information provided to us, we reviewed it and had approved the plan to proceed. On that basis, we have now come forward with the plan and are asking for approval of this Assembly in moving those dollars. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Not with me in the House right now.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I see we’re getting into the detail of the document and I’ll gladly go to that. The general issue of planning and of allocation of dollars, as I stated in question period earlier, was the fact that as dollars are approved or the appropriation is approved for the government to spend money in those areas, if that doesn’t proceed and we want to keep the money on the books, we have to come back to this Assembly and ask for approval to carry it over, which this document has a lot of. In this particular case the money is coming back for approval. Again, for the record, the...

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, the project as was outlined in the budget and as the budget is approved, there are expectations from communities and those who have been working on the project of that project moving ahead. There are many projects we can use as examples of a project being on the capital plan and even to the point where you see identified for the next fiscal coming up is then deleted from that program because of other issues that have come up. In this case, the Department of Health and Social Services came forward to FMB and Cabinet to identify changes in plans and had...

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. When a number of RFPs went out to communities, it was open to anybody to put in a proposal to run these centres or depots, the equipment. It’s probably not fair to go to Minister Miltenberger at this point for this information because he’s just taken that on, but Minister Bell may have some information on this that he can share with the Assembly at this point.