Louis Sebert

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Well, in my long experience, not too many ask for more time. I understand what you're saying. I mean we couldn't keep people in there who weren't serving a sentence. Obviously, they would have to avail themselves of other programs.

Thank you. I think those of us who had the opportunity of visiting Guthrie House were impressed by what they are doing there. We are hopeful that the same sort of therapeutic model would also work here. I don't believe, and perhaps Mr. Goldney can help me with this, I am not aware of any smaller jurisdictions that have attempted this model, but there may be other places across Canada that have. Thank you.

My understanding, subject to being corrected here, is that there could be minimum people in the program. However, many of the minimum security inmates are serving very short sentences and that's not the sort of sentence that would fit into this type of program. Perhaps Mr. Goldney can add or correct that if I've made an error. Thank you.

Yes. Thank you. Certainly, the enhancements that we have spoken of would allow a higher risk of offender in there, but I don't think we would be planning to have remands in there. Perhaps Mr. Goldney could elaborate on that. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As we know, there are many structures on the public lands that are administered by this government. That's why we're engaging with Indigenous governments at this time to determine how we can find out how many there are and on what basis the claims that they are rights-based are made.

Yes. The whole purpose of this of course is to reduce costs of maintaining separate systems across departments, and there was a mention of licences and permits. There's quite a number of them from fishing licence to pesticide business permits, so, hopefully, this will lead to a more efficient and less costly system. Thank you.

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. To my left, I have Brenda Hilderman, director of finance, and to my right, Willard Hagen, deputy Minister.

Those are issues that certainly will have to be determined. Once we find out how many of the cabins are actually rights-based, we will be dealing with those additional issues, also. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

As I mentioned earlier, there are a great number of cabins and camps out there, rights-based ones, that would be ones that are associated with an Aboriginal right to have the cabin or camp, so that's what we're looking into at this time. We really don't know how many there are out there. That's why we're engaging with the Aboriginal groups throughout the Northwest Territories.

Yes. The five systems that we currently have do have support challenges, and this system will address this risk by providing a common platform that will support several territorial lands surface, Commissioner's lands surface, oil and gas subsurface, the Mining Recorder's Office subsurface, and the Forest Management Division's surface. Hopefully, this will be at a lower capital cost, addressing issues of cost, and will be a more efficient and less costly system.

Also, I understand that it's a mandate item that we will improve collaboration for easier access to the government programs and...