Sandy Lee

Thank you, Mr. Chair. First of all, I was not here I don’t believe when that happened with the young offenders’ centre and if there was an uproar then, and there should be an uproar now, two wrongs don’t make it right. It was wrong then, it’s wrong now and I don’t think that justifies the Minister’s move on this thing.

My point is we can’t do that. It’s not a proper expenditure in decision-making of government money. The Minister stated some of the reasons why the young offenders' centre had to be moved here. There are, so far, no reasons given whatsoever why it is better to use the Hay...

That is it for now on this issue. Thank you.

Yes, sorry, Mr. Chairman, I should clarify. I am embarrassed to admit this, but I think it finally clued in that we might not have a workshop in Yellowknife. Is that true? If that is the case, how would Yellowknife people put their input into this process? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don’t have the capacity to get into the mind of the Minister, so I can’t prove or disprove whether his recollection is correct or not. I am a member of committee and I do not recall that. I can only go by what I have in my mind. Even the documents we received from the Minister in our in baskets, the briefing note about the potential assessment on the move was dated November 24, 2004. That would have been after our business planning process. That probably would have been when Dene K’onia was being suggested for closure. I don’t know what happened before November as...

Mr. Chairman, the general public out there have already heard about this and they are inquiring of us about details. How are the people who might want to take part in this able to find out this information? It is not an unlimited amount of money. It is a good chunk of money, but not money that could be spread thin and wide and forever. Could the Minister indicate as to what he can tell the NGOs or parties and people who might be interested in taking part in this and what they should be doing to get involved in that? Thank you.

We vote in this House, giving the authority to Ministers to spend the money as they requested. There was money approved to renovate this building and if the department chooses not to do that, that's a change in the scope of the work.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don’t have general comments on the opening statement, but I do have some questions on the proposed expenditure to prepare for the Mackenzie gas project of $1.3 million for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs and $378,000 for the Department of Health and Social Services. Certainly this is something that many individuals and groups across the Territories have been asking for the government to do. I know the government has been trying to get the federal government to perhaps take over a bigger burden of it and the GNWT has been left with no choice but to...

I don’t think I got confirmation as to whether this is supposed to be non-profit. I think Minister Roland indicated that it’s supposed to be self-sustaining. I don’t know what that means. I don’t know if there are too many groups out there without making any money. I am assuming somebody will make some money. They should make some money on this. I am being told that they will be required to pay some of these fees back. We don’t want to see a situation where they would be overburdened by having to make these payments. I guess at this point we don’t have any idea how it’s going to work once it...

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I’m glad to see that the Minister is straightforward enough to admit that this was a political decision, because I was thinking that listening to the Minister’s answers. Of course there will be situations where capital projects cannot proceed. We could miss the barge deadline, we could have all sorts of administrative and logistical problems where the construction cannot proceed, but I don’t think people out there are happy to see a capital project being moved around for political reasons. Even if the government spends $5,000 over, they have to report to us....

Could the Minister confirm whether this was supposed to be a non-profit operation? I think that is what has been the plan. We expect that the non-profit community organizations would bid for these projects and run them. Now the Minister is indicating that the government will buy this equipment. I don’t know how long these contracts are. If somebody gets to do this work for two or three years, what happens to the equipment after that? If they are self-sustaining after the program gets off the ground, are they expected to pay towards the equipment and, if not, the equipment should stay as...