Debates of February 24, 2026 (day 83)

Date
February
24
2026
Session
20th Assembly, 1st Session
Day
83
Speaker
Members Present
Hon. Caitlin Cleveland, Mr. Edjericon, Mr. Hawkins, Hon. Lucy Kuptana, Hon. Jay MacDonald, Hon. Vince McKay, Mr. McNeely, Ms. Morgan, Mr. Morse, Ms. Reid, Mr. Rodgers, Hon. Lesa Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Mr. Testart, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek, Mrs. Weyallon Armstrong, Mrs. Yakeleya
Topics
Statements

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate that. And I know there's funding to do some upgrades on that highway, and certainly appreciate that too. In the summer, the Minister mentioned that he will meet again and talk about doing some commitments. Will the Minister include with that -- and I know in speaking with our contractors on the NWT side, they've often went down and said, yeah, we could get that open but yet a couple of days pass before it's actually done. Is there a potential that we could actually provide some of that service to the Government of Yukon?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Those discussions have never happened -- or those discussions haven't happened that I am aware of, and I don't know if that idea has ever been tabled. So it's something we could talk about and look at and maybe work with the Member on what exactly the idea looks like, but definitely, you know, always open for solutions of ways to keep the Dempster Highway open longer. I think it's important to get supplies and services to all the communities in the North, so thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Oral questions. Member from Frame Lake.

Question 1074-20(1): Disability Support Program Access

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, following up on my statement earlier today, does the department of health -- and these questions are for the health Minister. Does the department of health have a system navigation or cross-departmental service access function which could receive clients with disabilities or their families and help coordinate access to services across programs and departments for them? Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Minister of Health and Social Services.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, no. Persons with disability access supports, like any other Northwest Territories resident, based on what their assessed needs are. So within health, if they have certain needs, then health will look within their system to support those needs. Many GNWT departments provide supports, so this is not just a health services area. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the 2023 supported living review recommended wraparound case management as a key systemic change needed. Has the department made any progress enacting this recommendation?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this is on the work plan; however, as I said last week, the health care sustainability unit is analyzing and looking at the supportive living program as it is, so we have paused any of this work until we get the outcomes of that because we don't want to be investing into areas where there's a higher need that may come through the analysis through the healthcare system sustainability unit. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Final supplementary. Member from Frame Lake.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I consider this health sustainability unit more of a fiscal responsibility exercise. I mean, the department has had a number of years with that review and the recommendations from it. Mr. Speaker, would the Minister consider establishing a systemic support role similar to the integrated service delivery team at EIA for persons with disabilities and supported living clients or working with the Premier to see if such a role could be added to the ISD team that exists? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as per the -- you know, the comments about, yes, this is a -- it's going to analyze -- it's analyzing because of the overspend in the supportive living area. Every year, we're spending, you know, millions and millions of dollars on supportive living, and so when we got this report it's also recommending to spend many, many more millions. So we have processes that we need to go through for that in order to implement all those recommendations; however, we have -- within health, we have child and family services recommendations, we have health care, you know, hospital service recommendations, we have primary care recommendations. So I am trying to balance all of those recommendations as to implementing the highest needs. But at this time, you know, what I can do is I can have a conversation with the Premier and with EIA as to how we could establish or work together better. But not at this time we won't be establishing that within health because it is across the board. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Oral questions. Member from Great Slave.

Question 1075-20(1): Veterinarians Without Borders

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in his response to my Written Question 22-20(1), the Minister of MACA wrote that the Dog Act is designed to provide flexibility so communities can address dog control and welfare issues in a manner that reflects their specific needs. This includes the authority for communities to adopt tailored local bylaws.

Mr. Speaker, can the Minister elaborate on what resources currently exist or need to be developed so that NWT communities can work collaboratively and share their good work with other communities that have partnered and seen success with Veterinarians Without Borders so they may also update their bylaws to improve animal welfare? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member from Great Slave. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Communities across the Northwest Territories use a range of tools to promote animal welfare, including local bylaws, public education, and partnership with external organizations. The GNWT supports community governments by providing them guidance, developing, and updating animal control bylaws, and help strengthen local capacity. While the Government of Northwest Territories does not deliver veterinary services, communities interested in expanding their animal welfare programming can explore partnerships with organizations like Veterinarians Without Borders and their northern animal health initiatives. Some communities are finding success in these programs other than the ones mentioned by the Member, such as Arctic Paws in Inuvik. The GNWT can assist sharing information and highlight success approaches already underway by other communities. This helps ensure that communities interested in updating their bylaws and are enhancing their animal welfare practices have access to examples, resources, and partnerships needed to support informed decision-making at the local level. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MS. REID: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You know, and I believe -- and thank you to the Minister for that. I also believe that he's met with representatives from Vets without Borders. And could the Minister explain if any -- he's identified any actions that MACA

Actually, Mr. Speaker, I can confirm that I have not met with the Veterinarians Without Borders. However, when communities express interest, the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs is prepared to facilitate any connections. Communities are also welcome to reach out to the Veterinarians Without Borders directly at any time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. Final supplementary. Member from Great Slave.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My mistake. They're great people to talk to.

Mr. Speaker, I hazard to guess that all bylaw officers in the territory would rather help stray animals than to destroy them. Can the Minister commit to sharing resources to put interest -- and I think he has, but can he commit to pathwaying communities that have changed their bylaws such that communities that want to change their bylaws could then have support to do so with learning from other communities who have? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think it goes without saying that any of these bylaw officers would do anything to help these animals in distress, and most community members would. But MACA is prepared to assist by sharing information and connecting interested community governments with organizations such as Vets Without Borders. I will ensure that communities seeking these resources have access to the information and connections they need to explore solutions that best meet the needs for the local circumstances. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. Oral questions. Member from Yellowknife North.

Question 1076-20(1): Contracted Private Paramedics

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So in follow up to my statement today, I want to ask questions of the Minister of Health and Social Services. And so I understand that currently there's already some use of contracted private paramedics in small community health centres, and the department is looking to expand that or put more of a framework around it but there's clearly sort of a reason in mind or what the purpose would be for this.

So my first question is are paramedics operating in community health centres meant to do simply all the same tasks that community health nurses currently can do, or are they meant to do additional tasks or different things than is currently within the scope of practice of a community health nurse? For example, treating patients outside community health centres in stabilizing or transporting. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife North. Minister of Health and Social Services.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I want to be very, very clear so that -- the paramedics that we have used in the health centres are a contract that we are obligated to hold when it's fire season. So we contract paramedics so that way if a community is evacuated, that we send the health -- like, the community health nurse and all of the staff in the community leave the community; however, we need to send in paramedics into that health centre to support the emergency responders working in that community. So what we have done is we've been paying for them, and so over the summer months is also a time when it's challenging to ensure that our community health centres remain open because nurses do work -- do not -- like, we have casual nurses that are coming in and some are on their time off, so the primary objective right now is for them to maintain operations at a minimum, avoiding closures during those months. Paramedics have different scopes than CHNs, and they only work within their scope. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So can the Minister clarify whether paramedics that are operating in community health centres, are they required to be supervised by a health authority employee such as the nurse in charge at all times, or are they permitted to work shifts alone? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Paramedics that are operating in the health centres are overseen at all times and are part of the collaborative team. When they are the only resource in a health centre due to being an emergency service, paramedics will consult with physicians on physician orders, and community health nurses do have the ability to initiate some treatment under the protocols that they have without physician orders. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Final supplementary. Member from Yellowknife North.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So the Minister has mentioned in the past in this House that part of the idea of having a paramedic there to help is to be able to take the night shift so a community health nurse can have more rest. So if that was occurring and the paramedic was answering phones at night -- and yet we've just heard they're required to be overseen at all times by the nurse in charge. If a paramedic made a decision about a patient, say, in the middle of the night that had serious negative consequences for that patient, who would then be responsible; is it the nurse in charge or the paramedic? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the paramedic scope of practice, you know, to be clear, is when those conversations happen, the nurse is within -- is in on the call. The part of it is that once the assessment is done, many of the health centres -- so people who live in small communities and health centres know that if there is a callback that there needs to be an eight-hour rest. And if there's only two other nurses and one nurse is assigned some other duties and the nurse that gets called back, usually what ends up happening is all of the clinics get cancelled for the next day. So what this is, is to enhance the support in the health centre to take the call then to -- you know, because a lot of times when the health centre gets phone calls and things like that, you know, they can refer them to 8-1-1, you know, and they can triage the call, call the nurse down, and be there to start the assessment, which might limit the time that the CHN actually has to be called back. So there's -- and as I am saying, this is something that's not set in stone. As the Member has stated, that there's a position that is in the proposed budget that we did a high-level analysis that we know that the health centre model of care hasn't changed -- my entire career, you know, anybody who's worked in this system has known that we need to make changes, we need to make sure that it's flexible. We know that the CHN model of care is the best model; however, what we want to do is we want to enhance that model. We want to look at investigating how LPNs could fit into that model. How can we fit in paramedics into that model to support those communities and to support those nurses. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Oral Questions. Member from the Sahtu.

Question 1077-20(1): Inernal Trade Barriers

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Following up on my statement, my question today is to the Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment on trade barriers.

First, given that the healthcare services face barriers equivalent to a 40 percent tariff, what concrete cost savings can the GNWT or Members of the Northwest Territories expect to realize from eliminating these trade barriers? Mahsi.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member from the Sahtu. Minister of ITA.

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And thank you to the Member for continuing to keep the conversation around internal trade barriers alive and well in this House. Much appreciated.

So, Mr. Speaker, last year we had really an unprecedented year as far as focus on internal trade barriers across this country. That included health care, of course. And often really what we saw was due to duplication in licensing and regulatory requirements of different supplies. That's where those real cost increases were coming. Last year we ended up with a 30 percent reduction in party-specific exceptions across the country. We signed the Canadian Mutual Recognition Agreement on goods excluding food and also mutual recognition initiatives in sectors like trucking as well. And so all of these play an impact on the cost of goods here in the Northwest Territories. Whether that's through nursing staff and being able to access people from across the country as we sometimes do. Whether that is trucking supplies across the country or even things like first aid kits, if first aid kits have to be different in one jurisdiction to the next. So at this point we're not ready yet as a country to say what the specific dollar figure is at this stage, but this work continues. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thanks to the Minister for that reply. We're really trying to get down to the cost savings to residents and capitalize on this opportunity.

My second question, Mr. Speaker, is what measurable progress and specific outcomes, benefits, can we expect from the committee on internal trades 2025 negotiations as we move into 2026 particularly regarding services liberation? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, Mr. Speaker, my previous response I alluded to some of those. So that was the reduction in the party-specific exceptions, the Canada Mutual Recognition Agreement that was signed across the country on goods. There was also the labour mobility laws that were imposed in other jurisdictions. And that has an impact here in the Northwest Territories because a lot of times we are relying on the capacities of other jurisdictions to do some of our regulating of professions here in the Northwest Territories.

We also saw the successful conclusion of the financial services negotiation under the Canada Free Trade Agreement, Mr. Speaker, and this has an impact of allowing financial institutions across the country to work more seamlessly across Canada, reducing duplicative regulatory requirements, access to insurance, or increasing and improving access to insurance, as well as financing options for northern businesses, as well as increasing competition, which we know ultimately brings costs down across the country. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister of ITA. Final supplementary. Member from the Sahtu.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Before I approach my last question, I want to compliment our Minister on the chairing of this national committee.

What is the GNWT's timeline for implementing the labour mobility action plan's 30-day services standard and which sectors will be prioritized for barrier reduction to maximize economic benefits for the residents and businesses of the Northwest Territories? Mahsi.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you to the Member for his kindness.

So, Mr. Speaker, we did have the chair position for 2025. We have happily passed it along to Nunavut for 2026. But we are ensuring that that momentum continues as a national team. We are going to see, as far as the 30-day service standard, work continue on that one here in the Northwest Territories as I alluded to previously as well. We rely on other jurisdictions in order to see some of those realized, but we also do have some regulatory bodies here in the Northwest Territories so we as a government are working closely with them. And that includes processes for -- standardizing processes for applications, including standardized documentation requirement and faster verification tools as well and making sure that we're aligning with the entire country on that through our regulatory bodies.

In addition, our federation of FMM -- first Ministers meeting. Thank you very much, Mr. Premier. We speak a little bit sometimes too much in acronyms, and I -- anyway, so we are still being directed by FMM, first Ministers, as far as maintaining the momentum at that table and ensuring that we're focused on things that do make a difference to Canadians. And with 2026, we're focusing and narrowing in on what services we can provide some consistency and standardization to across the country. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Oral questions. Member from the Dehcho.

Question 1078-20(1): Peer Group Placement in Schools

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are for the Minister of ECE.

Given that peer group placement is used only from junior kindergarten to grade 9, what steps is the department taking to ensure that students who are advanced with an education program plan are actually developing the foundational skills they need before entering grade 10 where peer group placement is no longer an option. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Dehcho. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, over the course of this term and the previous term, this was an issue and a concern that Members have consistently raised, and so I want to thank Members of the 19th and 20th Assembly for continuing to raise this concern.

We've introduced a standardized grade transition process. It's territory-wide so that there is a standard process that's followed with teachers across the territory in how grade transitions occur. And this is critical in ensuring that we're also not only treating those grade transitions the same way but also making sure that we're providing supports in the same way to the students that need them. So that's number one.

Number two is ensuring that the teachers and school-based support team are working with parents.

And then the third one, I would say, is that review on inclusive schooling that we're doing right now because that is ultimately where the rubber hits the road is those supports that our students need in the classroom to ensure that their individualized education plan can be followed. Thank you.

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. When students do not meet the most grade-level expectations, a school-based support team must review evidence of learning and identify supports. What additional interventions or instructional strategies is the department putting in place to ensure these supports are delivered consistently across the territory so learning gaps do not follow students from grade to grade and -- yeah. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. So, Mr. Speaker, ensuring that we have a standard process across the territory so that we can support teachers in this work as well as supporting students. So step one is that standardized process that I was talking about for teachers. And then step two is adjusting our inclusive schooling directive to really meet students with where they're at right now. We know that that directive is a decade old and our students have changed tremendously in the last decade, including the supports that they need across the Northwest Territories. And making sure that that directive is current and that the supports that go along with it are properly funded is going to be key for ensuring that students have the supports they need in our classrooms. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Education, Culture and Employment. Final supplementary. Member from the Dehcho.

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. The peer group placement process requires families to be informed and involved in decisions about their child's learning needs. How is the department improving communication with parents and guardians to ensure they fully understand the implications of peer group placement and the programming their child will receive in the next grade? Thank you.