Robert Hawkins

Madam Chair, the Minister shouldn’t think I am not hearing him. I do. But what continues to be the pillar of the issue for me is the fact that there is no coordinating role. How do you know we are all on the same song sheet just because they provide advice and guidance, but he keeps farming out responsibility to individual departments? When we consider complying on all these types of things, again it is the consistency of applying. Why is it so complicated to say that all information that would be going towards WSCC needs to have a check box that goes through Human Resources that can...

Is this something you don’t want to do or can’t do?

Maybe the Minister of Human Resources could help educate the Legislature on the inconsistencies of filing paperwork and how that is so incredibly difficult that we need a new risk matrix to explain the elements of why it’s so inconsistent in some areas and why we couldn’t have a consistent pattern across the board and, by the same token, someone to ensure there is a level of compliance.

And the answer to my question?

So maybe if it’s part of the performance process and the Department of Human Resources doesn’t seem interested in creating a coordinated role, who does coordinate to ensure that the deputies do comply?

I’m sorry, but I’m just not seeing it. The hoping that every department steps up to the plate still misses the coordinating role. It’s like an orchestra. We need a conductor to ensure everyone is playing the same tune. Sure, they all play wonderful instruments that are polished nice and they practice on their own, but the reality is, without that person tapping on the music and causing it to come together properly, it doesn’t have that element.

Here is a good example of the fact that no one is in charge of this particular thing. It’s all left up to the deputies by saying, don’t worry, you’re on...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to use the opportunity today to talk about a January 7th letter I wrote to Mr. Miltenberger regarding a Financial Administration Manual breach of 3307. It refers to aircraft chartering.

In my January 7th letter I wrote to Mr. Miltenberger and said that it looks like Mr. Ramsay led a charter to Fort Providence and several Members attended that. According to Mr. Ramsay’s November 19th letter, he encouraged Members to bring family members along. Although it was an occasion to celebrate – and that should not be forgotten on this occasion – the letter did not sort of...

I didn’t ask the question he answered, but I was grateful for the time he did spend providing information to the House again. My issue is about coordination. Is it something he can’t do, or doesn’t want to do?

Well, the Minister keeps echoing about how different places are, but when we talk about filing of paperwork, for example, we’ve have incidents where people don’t file on time, so why are departments so difficult they can’t file their paperwork in a compliance form? Maybe he could explain in a risk matrix complex, sort of explain all the deviations that apply to these things and why they are so different and maybe we can get an education here today. Because, ultimately, what we’re asking for is compliance and consistency. Do they all have different types of risks? Absolutely. That’s as plain as...

Who is there to guide the performance and consistency of the policy? It sounds as if I keep getting the same answer that it’s up to the departments, up to the deputy ministers and in some ways up to the Minister, but all I hear is inconsistencies of application. What I’m asking for, and other Members are asking for, is consistent application and someone to take a leadership role.

So back to the issue at hand is, who is ensuring there is consistent policy being complied with, because it’s a carrot or stick approach. It’s great that you can write all these guidelines and come up with some...